Posts Tagged ‘cash for clunkers legislation’

Who’s On The Hook For Failed clunker Deals?

Thursday, August 13th, 2009

From Net Worth – Kathleen Pender -Thursday, August 13, 2009

A battle is brewing among consumer groups, car dealers and the government over the use of contingency agreements in the Cash for Clunkers program.

At issue is who is left holding the bag if a transaction goes awry.

Under the Car Allowance Rebate System, a consumer turns in a qualified clunker and gets $3,500 or $4,500 off the price of a new car. The dealer must make sure the clunker and the new car meet program requirements and get the proper documentation – including proof of insurance and registration – from the owner.

After the buyer drives off, the dealer must electronically submit the paperwork and wait to be reimbursed. Dealers say that transactions are being rejected at a high rate – often for data errors, which can be corrected – and that reimbursements are coming slowly or not at all.

Some dealers are requiring or asking buyers to sign an agreement stating that if the dealer is not reimbursed, they will repay the dealer the $3,500 or $4,500 or return the car and get all or most of their money back. They can’t get their old car back because it is destroyed.

If buyers don’t comply, some dealers say they will repossess the new car, which could hurt the customer’s credit rating, or report it as stolen, says Rosemary Shahan, president of Consumers for Auto Reliability and Safety.

Dealers “told Congress and the press they needed Cash for Clunkers to be renewed because dealers were on the hook, they had taken risk, entered into these contracts. They didn’t tell Congress ‘We are shifting this risk onto consumers,’ ” she said.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which is running the CARS program, has told dealers they cannot force people to sign these agreements. It posted an advisory on www.cars.gov this week saying, “Consumers are not required to sign contingency agreements to pay back the dealers should the CARS credit be rejected.”

In response to reports that some dealers are refusing to turn over the keys to the new car until they are reimbursed, NHTSA added this notice to the Web site: “If the dealer has the new car in stock, the dealer must allow you to take possession of the new car before the dealer may submit the credit application to the government.”

The National Automobile Dealers Association questioned NHTSA’s legal authority to issue that kind of guidance. Charles Cyrill, a spokesman for the association, said it will “report any clarifications to its members as they are received.”

Some state auto dealers associations are recommending that their members get buyers to sign the contingency agreements. A sample agreement on the Minnesota Auto Dealers Association Web site says, “The dealership believes in good faith that your trade-in vehicle qualifies for the CARS incentive and that funds will be available. However, the risk of the federal government not paying the incentive is yours – not the dealerships.”

The California Motor Car Dealers Association is not advising its members to use such agreements, said Peter Welch, the group’s president. But “dealers are very, very frustrated. Some have seven-figure receivables outstanding. It’s starting to impact their cash flow. Many dealers I know have already decided to cease the program until they get paid.”

Dealers are also afraid they could lose if they make a transaction but are not reimbursed before the $3 billion allocated by Congress runs out. No one is sure how much money remains. A “fuel gauge” showing how much is left has been removed from the program’s Web site.

NHTSA spokeswoman Patricia Oladeinde said that if money runs out before a dealer is reimbursed, the dealer will be on the hook. “This is a voluntary program,” she said. “It does to some extent pose some risk.”

She said dealers have “a real-time ticker” that tells them how much money is left, but refused to tell me. “The public doesn’t need to know how much money is left,” she said.

Welch checked with two California dealers who said they have no access to a “real-time ticker.”

NHTSA has been sending out periodic updates through e-mail alerts.

The Wall Street Journal reported that as of early Tuesday, dealers had requested reimbursement for 292,447 vouchers totaling about $1.23 billion.

This article appeared on pageC – 1of the San Francisco Chronicle

Extra $2 Billion Injection into Cash for Clunkers Approved by Senate

Friday, August 7th, 2009

BY MICHAEL MCAULIFF IN WASHINGTON AND DAVID GOLDINER
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Thursday, August 6th 2009, 8:07 PM

Brian Benstock, of Paragon Honda in Queens, welcomes the new "Cash For Clunkers" extension DelMundo for News

Brian Benstock, of Paragon Honda in Queens, welcomes the new “Cash For Clunkers” extension

The Senate filled ‘er up last night, voting 60-37 to top off the Cash for Clunkers program with an additional $2 billion.

That should keep the popular car-swap deals humming along well into September, depending how fast cars sell.

The news thrilled dealers, who have watched gleefully as consumers turned in gas-guzzling trucks and SUVs to take home fuel-sipping compacts and rebates up to $4,500.

“It’s great news – this is exactly what the government was supposed to be doing,” said Brian Benstock of Paragon Honda in Queens. “It’s a spark that will help the entire economy.”

The Senate passed the measure just before going home for a month-long vacation. The House okayed it last week.

Republicans opposed the extension, arguing it increases the deficit.

“This should be called the debt-for-clunkers bill,” said Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.).

The GOP also contended the 200,000 to 250,000 cars sold with the program’s original $1 billion is only about 20,000 better than normal – meaning the boost cost Uncle Sam $45,000 per extra car sold.

Democrats countered that the auto market was way below normal in the recession, that the program was a lifeline for a struggling industry, and it is helping the environment.

Benstock said there’s no danger of running out of customers – there’s still millions of cars that qualify.  “This will help everybody get to the party,” he said.



Cash For Clunkers sales report details – trucks take a big hit

Friday, August 7th, 2009

The first set of detailed stats are in for the Cash For Clunkers program. What jumps out at me is the number of trucks turned in and replaced with cars. General Motors and Ford did well with the program. An increase in annual fuel economy from 15.8 mpg to 25.3 mpg should help new car owners make their payments, too. What surprises you about these results?

Cash for Clunkers’ Deals Could End Friday Unless Senate acts, White House Says.

Monday, August 3rd, 2009

Cash for clunkers’ deals could end Friday unless Senate acts, White House says.

Ken Thomas August 3rd, 2009

Administration: Clunker deals could end by Friday

WASHINGTON — The popular but overwhelmed “cash for clunkers” program is still rolling, but the White House says the Senate better approve $2 billion without delay or the big rebates for car buyers could sputter to an end by Friday.

Senate skeptics appear to be in no hurry.

On Monday, the Obama administration pointed to environmental gains made during the first week of the program, which gives rebates of as much as $4,500 to motorists who trade in gas guzzlers for more fuel-efficient vehicles. The White House also highlighted recovery news from Ford Motor Co., which reported its first U.S. sales increase in nearly two years.

“It’s good for consumers. It’s good for dealers and auto manufacturers,” White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said. “It’s good for our energy security and our environment.”

Gibbs said if the Senate failed to provide the extra money, “it’s unlikely that we’ll make it to the weekend with a program that can continue.” He estimated the additional $2 billion would allow consumers to take advantage of the incentives through September.

In the Senate, Democrats remained concerned about lining up enough support for the plan, which the House approved last week before heading home for the August recess. “I’d like to see the program extended,” said Dick Durbin of Illinois, the Senate’s second-ranking Democrat. “I hope we can get it done.”

While the House approved the funding by a nearly 3-to-1 margin last Friday, the clunkers program faces strong headwinds from conservatives who view it as another taxpayer bailout for the auto industry and environmentalists who complain that it ought to wring out more fuel efficiency. There’s little time left on the calendar — the Senate plans to take a four-week recess beginning Friday after it votes this week on Sonia Sotomayor’s nomination to the Supreme Court.

Despite the assurances from the White House, many dealers said they were concerned they could be on the hook for some of the money if the Senate fails to approve the $2 billion. John McEleney, chairman of the National Automobile Dealers Association, said his organization was warning dealers there were no guarantees they would be reimbursed for sales they make under the program this week. McEleney said he has stopped offering cash-for-clunkers deals at his own Iowa dealerships.

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said the average mileage of new vehicles purchased through the program is 9.6 miles per gallon higher than for the vehicles traded in for scrap. Buyers of new cars and trucks that get 10 mpg better than their trade-ins get the $4,500 rebate. People whose cars get between 4 mpg and 10 mpg better fuel efficiency qualify for a smaller $3,500 rebate.

LaHood said some 80 percent of the traded-in vehicles are pickups or SUVs, meaning many gas-guzzlers are being taken off the road. The Ford Focus is a leading replacement vehicle.

Ford said its July sales rose 1.6 percent in July from the same month last year, its first year-over-year increase since November 2007, while Chrysler Group LLC posted a smaller year-over-year sales drop compared with recent months, helped by “clunkers” deals. Other automakers showed gains, giving ammunition to supporters of the car rebate program.

Senate Republicans appeared to be in no hurry.

“We were told this program would last for several months,” GOP leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said. “It ran out of money in a week, prompting the House to rush a $2 billion extension before anybody even had time to figure out what happened to the first billion.”

McConnell said, “It’s not a bad idea to look for a second opinion. All the more so if they say they’re in a hurry.”

Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, the Senate’s second-ranking Republican, suggested lawmakers “take a time-out” so they could receive more details about the program before providing more money. “I’m concerned that somebody’s going to have to pay for this, and $4,500 for everybody that wants to take advantage of this program is a lot of money.”

Making its case for more funding, the administration collected information on 80,500 vehicle transactions logged into the government’s operating system through Saturday afternoon. Gibbs said the fuel efficiency improvements would save a typical customer $700 to $1,000 a year in fuel costs. The new vehicles were getting 25.4 miles per gallon on average, a 61 percent increase over the models traded in.

The data were aimed at appeasing lawmakers such as Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Susan Collins, R-Maine, who have questioned whether the program’s environmental benefits go far enough.

Those two senators and New York Democrat Charles Schumer praised the gains in a Monday afternoon news conference.

“The best solution is to continue and extend the program as it is,” Feinstein said. “The program appears to be running very well.”

LaHood said on MSNBC, “We’re encouraging senators to listen to their car dealers and the people they represent. If they do that, it will pass the Senate.”

The administration has been coy about just how long dealers would be reimbursed for rebates, after saying Sunday that the program would have to be suspended if the Senate failed to act.

Fierce lobbying for the program came from other quarters: The National Automobile Dealers Association and the American International Automobile Dealers contacted thousands of dealerships, telling them to bombard the Senate with phone calls and e-mails.

“This is the one true stimulus that seems to be working out of all the things that have been tried in the last few months,” said Cody Lusk, president of the international group.

The Senate narrowly approved the initial money in June. But some lawmakers who voted for the plan, including Feinstein and Collins, have said the additional dollars should push consumers to buy even more fuel-efficient vehicles and also to allow people to buy fuel-efficient used vehicles. Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M., has said he was concerned with the way the House paid for the extension, shifting $2 billion from a renewable energy loan program.

Associated Press writers Stephen Manning in Washington and Tom Krisher in Detroit contributed to this report.

Cash for Clunkers Back in Operation

Saturday, August 1st, 2009

Hot off the press from www.cars.gov!!  The Cash for Clunkers program is still in operation.  Get to your dealer immediately if you plan to participate.  The additional $2 billion appropriated and approved by the House must pass a senate vote next week and there will be a fight over the additional money.

Cash for Clunkers Back on the Road

Cash for Clunkers Back on the Road

Buyer Beware – You Must Be Prepared!

Friday, July 17th, 2009

Be An Educated Buyer!!

It is being reported that we are seeing new car advertisements that are very vague on the detailed breakdown of the incentives subtracted from the new car price that is being advertising.  Advertisements  just state that the new car is$15,000 with all applicable incentives and government voucher.  Do not fall for this.   The dealership has no idea what someone is trading in and the car brought in under the Cash for Clunkers program may qualify for $3,500 or maybe $4,500 if it was an old SUV with a big V8.  Negotiate the sell price of the new car first then subtract what is applicable for incentives and vouchers.  First negotiate the price of the car without incentives.  This way when you go from dealer to dealer to compare prices, and I strongly recommend you shop around, you will be talking apples to apples.  No tricks, no cloaking the price and confusing the buyer.  The potential voucher should have no impact on the base price in which the dealer is willing to sell the car to you for.  There is no reason when you initially discuss a price on a new car that you need to disclose to the sales person that you are going to participate in the Cash for Clunkers program.  Negotiate the price then talk voucher. You, the buyer, must maintain control of this process.

HOW DO I PREPARE FOR CASH FOR CLUNKERS?

Tuesday, July 14th, 2009

HOW DO I PREPARE FOR CASH FOR CLUNKERS?

While we are waiting for the July 27th kick off of Cash for Clunkers with the dealers, what should you be doing to prepare.   In the process of negotiating for a new car the #1 thing you want to remember is that you must maintain control of all aspects of the process.  That means going in prepared.  Prepared  fully understanding the “Cash for Clunkers” program and I hope this blog has helped in that.  Prepared to fully understand what price range you can afford in the purchase of a new car.  Prepared to fully understand what vehicles that are eligible in the Cash for Clunkers program fall into your price range.  Prepared to understand what financing you will need.  Prepared to understand what financing is available for you.  In other words research, research, research.  You want to be in full control at all times. Car salesmen are professionals and are trained on how to squeeze every bit of your hard earned dollars out of you.  The more research you do and the more prepared you are the better you can protect yourself and keep from being taken advantage of.

A key step that you can begin today is preparing your  financing.  You are probably going to need a loan  unless you have a rich uncle and then God Bless.  The first step in getting a loan and controlling this process is knowing your credit score.  Loan approval, the interest rate you can obtain, and how much money you can borrow depend on your credit score.  Get started now and click on the following link to obtain your credit score.
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This blog will continue a series of comments on the negotiating process with the dealer.  We are here to work the buyer’s side of the equation.   Almost all the sites relating to the Cash for Clunkers program are working with the dealers.  The consumer needs protection and hopefully me can help.  If you have any questions please click this link – Contact Us.

How do I find out the combined city/highway fuel economy rating of my trade-in vehicle?

Tuesday, July 14th, 2009

A frequently ask question is “How do I find out the combined city/highway fuel economy rating of my trade-in vehicle?”

Go to http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm and click on the model year of your vehicle, the make, and then the model. Under the words “ESTIMATED NEW EPA MPG” in the red banner, there is a red number with the word “COMBINED” under it. That is the new combined city/highway fuel economy for your vehicle. You may then enter the make, model, and model year of a new vehicle you may want to buy and see its combined MPG for comparison.

A Guide To Cash For Clunkers Bill

Friday, July 10th, 2009

A review of  the CASH FOR CLUNKERS BILL

Posted on July 10, 2009 by jtgartner

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Curious exactly how the Cash for Clunkers bill works? This handy chart and fact sheet provide all you need to know about trading in a beater Isuzu for a shiny new car.

At first, a look at the chart gives the impression there’s a lot of money to be made by trading in your old car for a new one. Unfortunately, the compromises in this bill make it unlikely many people will be able to utilize it and save a great deal. There are two factors working against making this a worthwhile proposition and they both have to do with the logic of the bill.

First of all, operable vehicles are required and there aren’t many people driving around with vehicles worth less than $1,500. Many old crappy cars, in fact, can still demand up to $2,500 on the open market. This means you’re going to get, max, $2000 for your trade-in. The least valuable qualifying cars, of course, are actually the more efficient compact vehicles, which makes getting the necessary 10 MPG improvement unlikely.

The second problem, stemming from the first, is quantifying the number of people who actually drive around in cars worth less than $2,500 and can actually afford a new car. Instinct tells us there aren’t many people. This means people taking advantage of the program will, typically, have to be excited by the prospect of saving $1,000 or $2,000. These people should already have been swayed by intense discounting from automakers in recent months.

This isn’t to say there aren’t people who won’t be able to get money from the program because, say, they have an old light duty truck and have been meaning to trade up to a newer car for a while. But the greatest number taking advantage of this deal may be people who can afford a new car and have, for one reason or another, decided not to buy one. These people will likely be lured in by dealers combining the $4,500 voucher with $2,000 in additional savings for big numbers like “$6,500 off a new Focus” that ignore the actual original value of the trade-in.

Kelley Blue Book Video on Cash for Clunkers

Wednesday, July 8th, 2009

Kelley’s video explaining the Cash for Clunkers program is available below.